That’s Debatable: Considering NCAA Consistency

Posted by rtmsf on January 14th, 2011

That’s Debatable is back for another year of expert opinions, ridiculous assertions and general know-it-all-itude.  Remember, kids, there are no stupid answers, just stupid people.  We’ll try to do one of these each week during the season.  We’re fairly discerning around here, but if you want to be included, send us an email with your take telling us why at

This Week’s Topic: The NCAA has taken a lot of flak in the last week for its seeming inconsistency in recent rulings involving Cam Newton, the Ohio State football players and Enes Kanter, among others.  Give us your ideas on how the NCAA should handle an increasingly complex environment involving the eligibility issues of its student-athletes.  Can it be consistent?

Andrew Murawa, RTC contributor

If the NCAA can at least be consistent in attempting to look out for the best interests of student-athletes, while maintaining as near a level playing field as possible for all schools to compete upon, that should be enough. In the Kanter case, it seemed to me that Kanter didn’t do anything inherently “wrong.” He accepted money from a Turkish professional team above and beyond expenses for housing, education and the like, but Kanter never showed any real interest in becoming a professional. If he had wanted to be a professional, he could have been pulling a salary overseas for years now, but he made the commitment to come to the United States and try to compete at the college level. If the NCAA was going to rule with the best interests of the student-athlete in mind, Kanter would have been eligible at some point, after an appropriate penalty and his repayment of whatever additional funds he received. The NCAA is never going to be able to come up with a one-size-fits-all solution to these types of amateurism cases, and comparing the circumstances and motives behind each individual case will never be exact, but if they can consistently rule in a manner protective of its student-athletes – while still protecting the goal of amateurism – they’ll at least be serving their mission.

Tom Wolfmeyer, RTC contributor

Transparency, transparency, transparency.  The NCAA’s biggest problem in my eyes is that nobody seems to be able to predict how rules will be interpreted or penalties handed out in a given case.  And then when the organization is questioned, they have trouble articulating the nuance and distinguishing between decisions.  The only way to combat this is with complete transparency in how their enforcement system works and the decision-making matrix that the NCAA uses to establish guidelines for punishment.  If Cam Newton’s situation is indeed different than Enes Kanter’s, and his is different than Derrick Rose’s, et al., then the NCAA needs to inform us as to the specific criteria used to make decisions and then follow those same guidelines in future, similar cases.  The way it stands now is entirely too ambiguous, which ultimately creates an appearance of the NCAA enforcement folks playing favorites and impropriety.  And isn’t that the exact thing that the NCAA purports to be working for — a level playing field with a fair and just system?

Brian Otskey, RTC contributor

I think it’s impossible for the NCAA to be consistent when it comes to every student-athlete. I know Cam Newton was basically shopped around but I don’t follow college football and don’t know anything beyond that so it’s not my place to comment on that or the Ohio State football controversy. What I do know is that Enes Kanter is a professional athlete. He played for a professional team and received $33,000 above his necessary expenses, according to the university and the NCAA. The outrage from Dick Vitale and others that the NCAA declared him ineligible to get back at John Calipari is ludicrous. Kanter would be ineligible no matter what team he played for and teams knew he was a risk while recruiting him. I can’t blame Kentucky for taking a risk with a potentially great reward but let’s stop with the conspiracy theories about this. When it comes to Josh Selby, that money wasn’t even 15% of what Kanter was paid, though it does seem strange that he’s allowed to pay it back and play while Kanter cannot. The bottom line is that it’s impossible to create one rigid standard for everyone. Each situation should be looked at on a case-by-case basis.

Matt Patton, RTC contributor

They should not pay players.  I read a lot of people saying that college athletes should be paid, and I’m totally against it.  There’s already a huge discrepancy between the major programs and the mid-majors: don’t make it worse.  Despite what a lot of people say, college athletes are paid pretty well — all get scholarships with a potential for a degree (don’t undervalue a college degree), and most of those scholarships come with a living stipend that is more than enough to leave athletes with some spending money if they’re willing to have a roommate.  If you want to be paid, go professional.  All that said, the NCAA needs to be consistent.  I’m not offended by the Enes Kanter decision because he clearly took money from a professional team to play basketball.  That seems straightforward (and most teams saw that and didn’t recruit him).  But Cam Newton gets off free because he “didn’t know?”  And the Ohio State stars are suspended five games next year, not the bowl game?  Man up.  I know the NCAA is scared they’ll lose football if they’re too harsh, but it’s unfair to enforce some rules strictly and others loosely or not at all.

John Stevens, RTC editor

Develop a uniform standard that includes and really considers both action and intent. Examining things case-by-case opens up any adjudicating body to playing favorites, collusion, etc. Nobody was surprised that Kanter was declared ineligible by the eligibility committee but it is indeed odd that he wasn’t cleared by the appeals committee, which is supposed to consider the student-athlete’s intent. The NCAA would have us believe that Kanter at age 16 should be accountable for how his father represents him, but an 18-year-old Newton isn’t accountable for what his father does. Yes, Kanter took money from a Turkish pro team. But Newton’s father committed an NCAA infraction by simply shopping his son, something he admitted doing. The NCAA’s reasoning for allowing Newton to play? “He didn’t know.” And when kids take impermissible benefits from people they shouldn’t, sometimes they’re allowed to pay it back and it shouldn’t matter whether the cash comes from a professional team or an agent/go-between who communicates with professional teams. Kanter got no such consideration, and it’s never been explained why. If the NCAA cared about its public image, it would develop standards that apply to everyone. In my opinion, either they both should have played, or neither. Here’s the catch, though. The NCAA doesn’t care about its image, or that it appeared to cave to higher interests. They’re the only game in town. And I think they knew that people saw right through the Newton and OSU decisions, and they used the Kanter/Kentucky case to show that they can still wield power over major programs.

Ned Reddick, RTC contributor

The NCAA needs to be more open with its rulings on eligibility. If this requires them having someone record minutes or opening up the issue to the public (Could you imagine the ratings this would have had in Kentucky for the Kanter rulings?), then they should do it. Right now too many fans feel like the NCAA is against their team and to be perfectly honest at times I can see their point of view even if I disagree with them. While there many have been some subtle differences between the Cam Newton and Enes Kanter cases, that they let Newton off without any punishment while banning Kanter for life, the NCAA needs to come out and answer questions to a group of reporters not just to a hand-picked reporter (sorry Seth) that leaves the rest of us dumbfounded. As for the Ohio State/Sugar Bowl situation there is absolutely no way they can defend it other than saying that they make up the rules as they go and they bent over backwards for big money. I’d love for the NCAA to be consistent, but I just don’t see it happening any time soon.

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One response to “That’s Debatable: Considering NCAA Consistency”

  1. Dennis Childers says:

    Rules must be enforced to the letter of the rule regardless of the circumstances. By judging each case on an individual basis will always lead to controversy as there is now. When rules are broken as in the cases of Josh Shelby and Enes Kanter, it should not make the difference of by how much the rule is broken, but that the rule was broken in the first place. If a thief that steals one dollar is allowed to repay, and the thief that steals two dollars is not, does not make sense.
    Then one of the NCAA rules allows them to not enforce or to delay any punishment if it would interfere with a championship game…………….WHAT THE &%#*!!!!!!!!!! Now is it about enforcing the rules or continuing the flow of $$$$$$$$?
    Either the rules are to be followed regardless of any circumstances or do away with the rule or rules committee, as they are useless and just keep everyone upset.
    By the way I am a UK fan, but who really cares if a kid sells anything that is given to him, as in the Ohio State issue. And I’m sure that the Kansas fans would be singing the same song as Kentucky fans about Cam Newton, had Josh Shelby been banned for life.
    NCAA, do the right thing follow your own rules equally and be consistent. Either the rule is broken or it is not.

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