By: DJayanti

DJayanti — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:36:29 +0000

In reply to MSUDersh.

Interesting take. I agree that the ACC and Big East get the well-deserved attention b/c they produce champions and they do it consistently. Big Ten, however has more of a rep as the “coaches” league or a league that is deeper than the ACC or the SEC. Big East has the depth factor down as well, helps that there are 15-some schools in the conference. As far as the pecking order goes, Big East clearly dominates and the ACC is very top heavy. But as an overall conference, I think BT is just as good as the ACC.

I definitely agree that Ohio State’s loss on Saturday has damaged the BT rep by any means. If anything, their rise in basketball under Matta has been GREAT for the conference. Indiana will make a comeback in this decade and Izzo has a ton of juice left in his program to win one. Ohio State’s abilities will only get better. I think the conference is certainly looking up, but a title would help to compete with the other conferences over the next four-five years. They are close, but need a little help to seal the deal.

By: MSUDersh

MSUDersh — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:18:02 +0000

I think the B1G’s rep was already damaged – and I don’t think that Tosu or this season had anything to do with it.

Like the article mentions, since MSU won in 2000, the ACC has won 5 titles (Duke & UNC 2x/each, & Maryland) – and 3 of those 5 have come over B1G squads: ’02 Maryland over IU; ’05 UNC over Illinois; ’09 UNC over MSU.

The Big East has won thrice (UConn 2x & ’Cuse); the SEC has won 3 (Florida 2x & Kentucky); and Kansas repped the Big XII once.

Before that, we had U-M in ’89, Indiana in ’76, ’81, & ’87, and MSU in ’79, then you go way back to Tosu in ’60 & Indiana in ’53. I don’t think that IU’s ’39 title, or Wisconsin’s ’40 title, count for much, as not only were those during war years when rosters would have been severely depleted, but the NIT was still the premier tournament until 1950.

So in the past 60 years, this conference has won a grand total of 8 titles, by 4 schools. And only two, IU & MSU, have multiple titles. Not exactly a stellar record. If you keep it to the past 25 seasons, we have 2 titles by two schools (which is also the exact same number of titles & winning schools the B1G has in football in that time . . . ).

I guess the redeeming factor is, all of the schools that have won in the past quarter century (since M won in ‘89), except for Tarkanian’s ‘90 UNLV squad and Corliss Williamson’s ’94 Razorbacks, have been blue-blood hoops powerhouse schools, virtually all coached by current or soon to be HOF coaches (minus Fisher at M, & Tark).

Bottom line is, I don’t think Tosu’s loss hurts the Big Ten’s rep, I believe that there really is no national rep, period. Us B1G fans often complain that the ACC & Big East get all the hoops love (like how we complain about the SEC getting all the football love), but when you look at the highest level results, it makes sense that those conferences get pumped up by the media. They own 8 of the last twelve titles, and the B1G owns none of them.

But I would say, at least we’re higher up in the pecking order than the Pac-12 & the Big XII!

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