Comments on: ATB: Wesley Johnson Makes Syracuse Better Than Last Year http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/ the ubiquitous college basketblog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:12:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rush The Court » Blog Archive » RTC Team of the Week: Syracuse http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21959 Rush The Court » Blog Archive » RTC Team of the Week: Syracuse Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:32:35 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21959 [...] of the best frontcourts in the country. The Orange’s performance left us wondering if this year’s version might be better than last year’s version even without Jonny Flynn, Eric Devendorf, and Paul Harris. And for those of you who are wondering, [...] [...] of the best frontcourts in the country. The Orange’s performance left us wondering if this year’s version might be better than last year’s version even without Jonny Flynn, Eric Devendorf, and Paul Harris. And for those of you who are wondering, [...]

]]> By: Rush The Court » Blog Archive » Morning Five: 11.23.09 Edition http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21906 Rush The Court » Blog Archive » Morning Five: 11.23.09 Edition Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:51:40 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21906 [...] lot was written after the Syracuse second-half bombardment of North Carolina on Friday night, including here.  Some of the better pieces were from Jeff Goodman, Seth Davis, and Adam [...] [...] lot was written after the Syracuse second-half bombardment of North Carolina on Friday night, including here.  Some of the better pieces were from Jeff Goodman, Seth Davis, and Adam [...]

]]> By: tyus edney http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21894 tyus edney Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:22:02 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21894 I think I have made a jerk of myself here before when I have seen East Coast Bias. I thought this fit the bias label pretty well. I just thought ripping on the pac-10 for recent NCAA performance was pretty lame. I am a huge fan of KenPom and tempo free stats and the fact that the Pac-10 last year was #1 in 2009 tells me the conference didn't suck. It had 8 of 10 teams that were decent. No studs but as a WHOLE the conference was good. But because UW loses to Purdue by 3(?) then the conference sucked. And because AZ didn't DESERVE to be where you said it wasn't then they really weren't. There will be enough criticism of the Pac-10 for the next year or so at which it will probably be forgotten as a talking point as it was in the 1980s. I will be crying for bias since its better then being forgotten. I think I have made a jerk of myself here before when I have seen East Coast Bias. I thought this fit the bias label pretty well.
I just thought ripping on the pac-10 for recent NCAA performance was pretty lame. I am a huge fan of KenPom and tempo free stats and the fact that the Pac-10 last year was #1 in 2009 tells me the conference didn’t suck. It had 8 of 10 teams that were decent. No studs but as a WHOLE the conference was good. But because UW loses to Purdue by 3(?) then the conference sucked. And because AZ didn’t DESERVE to be where you said it wasn’t then they really weren’t.

There will be enough criticism of the Pac-10 for the next year or so at which it will probably be forgotten as a talking point as it was in the 1980s. I will be crying for bias since its better then being forgotten.

]]> By: rtmsf http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21802 rtmsf Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:05:16 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21802 TE: 2009 SEC did suck. No doubt about it. Agreed about the 2006 B10 as well. And I've already addressed last year - Arizona made it but it was a fluke run, and there were no Sweet 16 quality teams in the entire league. But we also said that in 2008 the Pac-10 was the best conference, and it pretty much was; so you can't claim west coast bias. TE: 2009 SEC did suck. No doubt about it. Agreed about the 2006 B10 as well. And I’ve already addressed last year – Arizona made it but it was a fluke run, and there were no Sweet 16 quality teams in the entire league.

But we also said that in 2008 the Pac-10 was the best conference, and it pretty much was; so you can’t claim west coast bias.

]]> By: rtmsf http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21801 rtmsf Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:03:00 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21801 TE: normally we're pretty fair to the Pac-10 around here, much more so than the east-coast based sites. But come on? You're gonna pull barely-invited #12 seed Arizona getting a lucky draw playing #13 seed Cleveland St in the 2d round only to get absolutely obliterated by Louisville in the S16? There were six teams invited from the Pac-10 last year. Those teams went 6-6 as a collective. The average team won one game and lost one game. In other words, went to the second round and lost. And I refuse to give the league much credit for getting its "worst" invited team to the S16 through an upset followed by getting embarrassed when it got the Sweets. TE: normally we’re pretty fair to the Pac-10 around here, much more so than the east-coast based sites.

But come on? You’re gonna pull barely-invited #12 seed Arizona getting a lucky draw playing #13 seed Cleveland St in the 2d round only to get absolutely obliterated by Louisville in the S16?

There were six teams invited from the Pac-10 last year. Those teams went 6-6 as a collective. The average team won one game and lost one game. In other words, went to the second round and lost. And I refuse to give the league much credit for getting its “worst” invited team to the S16 through an upset followed by getting embarrassed when it got the Sweets.

]]> By: tyus edney http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21800 tyus edney Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:59:11 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21800 Turns out it was 2004 so your point really was quite the dig. Every 6 years no pac-10 team makes the sweet 16. Other sucky conferences: Big 10 (11!) 2006 had no sweet 16 teams SEC (12 teams?) 2009 no sweet 16 teams Relegate them to D2? Turns out it was 2004 so your point really was quite the dig. Every 6 years no pac-10 team makes the sweet 16.

Other sucky conferences:
Big 10 (11!) 2006 had no sweet 16 teams
SEC (12 teams?) 2009 no sweet 16 teams

Relegate them to D2?

]]> By: tyus edney http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21796 tyus edney Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:49:08 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21796 So the sucky Pac-10 "won't get past the second round in the NCAA AGAIN" (EMPHASIS MINE) For trivia sakes when was the last time the PAC-10 didn't get past the second round???? I know it wasn't last year, or the year before that, or the year before that, or the year before that. So when was it and why was it so important to point out the Pac-10 sucked before this year. We know it sucks this year but it seems important to reinforce that it sucked before this year. Which it didn't. Unless your are talking about the 1980's because it did suck then. So the sucky Pac-10 “won’t get past the second round in the NCAA AGAIN” (EMPHASIS MINE)

For trivia sakes when was the last time the PAC-10 didn’t get past the second round????

I know it wasn’t last year, or the year before that, or the year before that, or the year before that. So when was it and why was it so important to point out the Pac-10 sucked before this year. We know it sucks this year but it seems important to reinforce that it sucked before this year. Which it didn’t. Unless your are talking about the 1980’s because it did suck then.

]]> By: Brian http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21767 Brian Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:59:00 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21767 I just think FIU is irrelevant no matter who the coach is lol. I just think FIU is irrelevant no matter who the coach is lol.

]]> By: rtmsf http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21744 rtmsf Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:08:12 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21744 Isiah won his first game in D1 - that's a HUGE story! Isiah won his first game in D1 – that’s a HUGE story!

]]> By: rtmsf http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21743 rtmsf Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:07:50 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21743 Yeah, I included all three b/c they're gone, but made reference to the two knuckleheads, haha. Yeah, I included all three b/c they’re gone, but made reference to the two knuckleheads, haha.

]]> By: Jameson http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21741 Jameson Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:57:56 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21741 It's not without Flynn, Devo, and Harris this team is better, it's without Devo and Harris this team is better. Scoop and Triche are playing great, but if Flynn is in this lineup they may have been as good as Carolina was last year. It’s not without Flynn, Devo, and Harris this team is better, it’s without Devo and Harris this team is better. Scoop and Triche are playing great, but if Flynn is in this lineup they may have been as good as Carolina was last year.

]]> By: Brian http://rushthecourt.net/2009/11/21/atb-wesley-johnson-makes-syracuse-better-than-last-year/comment-page-1/#comment-21726 Brian Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:34:58 +0000 http://rushthecourt.net/?p=13031#comment-21726 FIU is a national game of interest? Spare me. FIU is a national game of interest? Spare me.

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