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By: rtmsf

rtmsf — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:19:28 +0000

The NCAA says no to a lot of things that are marketing-related but aren’t for sale or involve money.

By: taylor

taylor — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:15:19 +0000

NO money was made for from or with this in ANYWAY… songs are NOT sold… and are just fun things he does for the school… but he does not charge for anything… and no donations accepted…

By: nvr1983

nvr1983 — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:58:24 +0000

Buck,
To be perfectly honest we’re both fairly content with our day jobs. Rtmsf is just calling it like he sees it. If potentially violating a NCAA rule is protected by the Constitution then Woolridge has nothing to worry about.

PS Good luck finding a new football coach.

By: BuckFama

BuckFama — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:57:01 +0000

I just want to know why a bunch of grown men want to get some 18 year old kid in trouble for doing what is allowed him in the Constitution? I mean seriously…it honestly sounds like you people are just mad because he is more talented than you. I have two words for all of you…..GROW UP!

By: Logan

Logan — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:41:56 +0000

Marcus McClinton, a safety on UK’s football team made a video last year of a song he wrote. the video had several players in it, and was used to open home games. How is that any different? As a die-hard UK fan, its in my blood to hate anything UT, but give the kid a break, he’s just doing what he likes to do.

By: jamessye

jamessye — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:28:32 +0000

Coming from a University of Arizona fan, who gives a sh#t. The kid is having fun, and what’s wrong with a kid using his talents on and off the court to possibly [I don't think the kid is moving any units...lol]. This sounds like spilled milk.

By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:54:44 +0000

I can’t say for sure why he would take the picture down. But if he isn’t profiting or planning to profit from the music, it’s a moot point. And like I said, there’s nothing to support he’s making money, nor would Tennessee ever allow it to happen. If I had to venture a guess, I’d say he was advised to take it down as a precaution because people may misinterpret the situation which, in my opinion, is what’s happening here. But regardless, we can just agree to disagree and I’ll continue to read the blog. I’m ready for actual basketball.

By: rtmsf

rtmsf — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:37:07 +0000

Luke – thanks for your comments. Seriously. Hopefully we’re both learning things here.

I’m still not sure I agree with you that there was no violation here. Again, look at the above photos that were on his site last night. Why were they removed if there was no problem?

By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:32:17 +0000

Sure, neither you or I can say for 100% certainty that it is or isn’t a business entity. I’m saying that all signs point to it NOT being one and just a kid and his friends dreaming about a rap career. While you’re assuming it is by asking; “how is this NOT an NCAA violation?” Look, if this was something he was making money off of or planning to make money off of, don’t you think someone would have squashed it by now? Do you really think UT is going to let Gary Parrish come in and do an exclusive national story if it was even remotely fishy? Tennessee has dealt with the NCAA before, enough that something this obvious isn’t just going to slip through the cracks. And there is precedent for college athletes making and releasing music, music that mentions other players. It is not an NCAA violation. I’m talking about Miami football and the “7th Floor Crew” which, like Woolridge, was nothing beyond a Myspace Music page. Even if Woolridge released a free CD, it doesn’t change the fact that he isn’t profiting from it, and neither are his teammates.

By: rtmsf

rtmsf — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:39:55 +0000

Luke – again, if UT or RW wasn’t taking it somewhat seriously, why did all photographic evidence of his persona’s affiliation with NCAA basketball and UT come down overnight?

I get your point on whether Swiperboyz Entertainment is a business entity or not, but you’re missing ours in that it’s really not my call or your call whether that’s true. It’s UT’s compliance office and ultimately, the NCAA’s decision. Just because you cannot purchase a CD yet doesn’t mean there aren’t/weren’t plans to do so. The site mentions that there will be a CD coming out in October. Is that a free cd?

If so, even you would admit that a free CD talking about UT players would fall under promotional materials, and according to NCAA rule 12.5.2.4, other promotional activities need to be cleared with the school first. Was that done in this case?

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By: Luke

Luke — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:51:29 +0000

What I’m saying is ANYONE can create a Myspace Music page and call themselves a professional musician. They can even make up a name for a record label (such as Swiperboyz Enterntainment) and put it there, but that doesn’t make it anywhere near real in the sense that it is a business. The extent of Swiperboyz is a Myspace Music page. That is it. The kid has the ability to put out professional quality material with professional quality equipment because, unlike your average rapper, he comes from money. Not because he’s making money off his music and funding his rap career. His father played in the NBA for 13 years. No one has shown a shred of evidence that this is anything remotely close to a commercial enterprise, yet we’re asking “how is this NOT an NCAA violation?”. You have got to be kidding. Like I said earlier, where is this track available to buy? Where is any track or album associated with Swiperboyz Entertainment available to buy? Where can I do anything of any sort that would be financially beneficial to the creators of this “commercial enterprise”? This is absurd.

By: rtmsf

rtmsf — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:55:49 +0000

Luke – Is SwiperBoyz Entertainment a 503(c) charity? If not, what is it? Is it a business? Is it completely made up? The point is that we don’t know and nobody else does either (except RW). It IS worth asking the question, though.

Sometimes the appearance of impropriety is just as bad as any impropriety. If this is really no big deal, then why did RW’s MySpace site change overnight? All photographic references to NCAA basketball and UT were removed after this post came out and started receiving some attention.

By: williebill

williebill — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:19:14 +0000

Dumb thought by Ky fan;envy is a terrible thing